Produser: Julien de Smet, [[produser: Ronny Heiremans]], Heike Langsdorf, Vanessa Müller, Filip Van Dingenen, [[produser: Stijn Van Dorpe]], [[produser: Clementine Vaultier | Clémentine Vaultier]], and [[produser: Katleen Vermeir]].
Bibliography: The Orphans of Tar
[[audio:https://cloud.caveat.be/s/GgQXXEsQWDpTriG/download | title: Caveat Reading Room #14: Orphans of Tar - A Speculative Opera]]
Caveat Reading Room #14: Orphans of Tar - A Speculative Opera
The Orphans of Tar, a factual-fiction, features fictitious characters that are rooted in real-life questions and considers a more inclusive society, a sustainable art ecology and the search for possible [[tag: third spaces | Third Spaces]]... For this online Caveat Reading Room, we invite you to gather around this [[tag: publication | co-authored publication]] as an occasion to discuss [[tag: property | property relations]] and processes of speculation within and surrounding the arts field.
 Introduction read by Heike Langsdorf
 [[tag: third spaces | Third Space]]
[6:32] Vanessa Müller reads from "We consider", p 13
 Top-down social engineering in Ghent's Rabot neighborhood. Quote by Donna Haraway.
 Michiel Reynaert asks about Third Spaces in the project.
[11:10] Danielle van Zuijlen on the "spaces" at play in the project.
[13:24] Ronny Heiremans on Third Spaces
[14:20] Julien De Smet on Tondelier's fenced-off construction site and its relation to the form of the book/project - libretto, creating proximity
[16:16] Stijn Van Dorpe reads from "A third space is a safe space", p 11. Footnote 9 containing understandings of Third Spaces on p 28. From "I'm wondering" p 73 about [[tag: co-create | co-writing]].
[21:27] Stijn Reads from Didier Eribon, 'Retour à Reims' ...on class and culture.
[24:27] Ronny on fiction and reality. [[Real estate]] and real construction sites.
 Ronny returns question about Third Spaces to Michiel. Michiel and Ronny about physical and mental aspects.
[30:19] Stijn on a project he did together with Kelly Schacht. Slam artists work with Tondelier site.
 Filip Van Dingenen, Stijn and Ronny on critical, aesthetic and political potential of slam art
 Julien on [[tag: space | (im)material spaces]].
[35:25] Heike reads from "When the People" on p 56, on being heard, social inequality, love.
[38:42] Ronny on structure of the book: making of, different character protagonist descriptions.
[42:44] Katleen reads from "For the shareholder activists", p 62 on real estate property relationships.
[46:08] Vanessa on art and life, speculation, value (of dust), shareholders. Who has a right to be on the site of speculation?
[51:24] Katleen on cycles of value, absorbsion by elite.
[53:58] Danielle on artists' fund that was proposed. Fictional space of art
[55:23] Katleen on [[tag: contract | precarious contracts]]. Danielle on "overstaying our welcome", contract. Legitimacy of art. Artists as mosquitos making noise.
[57:25] Ronny on actors and policies involved. Shared equity and co-ownership. How can possible ways out of real estate problems at hand be proposed? A Modest Proposal
[1:00:00] Katleen on spaces of class
[1:01:05] Danielle and Ronny on overcomplicated/failed projects
[1:02:44] Airport disowns dwellers surrounding it
[1:03:25] Danielle: overstaying our welcome, liberation from contract with commissioners, freedom
[1:05:55] Michiel on similar experience in Zennestraat Brussels
[1:10:01] Heike on buying, [[ownership]] by (an) artist(s).
[1:11:50] Jesse on community landtrust, built on a principle of [[tag: ownership | co-ownership]].
[1:19:25] Ronny and Vincent on the 'abcatio juris' by Franciscan Order, who preferred to have a right anything. [[tag: colonisation | Colonial]] mechanism of bringing the western principle of ownership to other parts of the world. Principle of improvement leading to ownership
[1:24:25] Azad Asifovich about Ta(r)dino 6 Art Platform in Baku Azerbaijan: collective ownership independent of family, capital, etc. Role in [[gentrification]] of area.
[1:28:55] Azad on Guild House that was reappropriated in Log Horizon.
[1:30:32] Ronny on [[tag: law | equity law]], historical legal principle that is still of relevance
[1:33:29] Heike reads from "In 1940" on p. 88.
[1:37:30] Julien on the role of Tar.
[1:40:02] Filip Van Dingenen on cleaning up polluted construction sites and following the tar and its relationships.
[1:43:42] Julien reading from "A sole desire", p. 99
[1:46:04] Clémentine on visual elements at the site "artist's impressions" of what the building would look like - imagining the opera shown on it
[1:48:07] Clémentine reading the refrain p. 26
[1:49:05] Vincent on artistic questions of a possible opera on basis of the project.
[1:52:16] Filip on possible languages of scripting speculation.
[1:54:12] Filip reads on p. 12 from "Umberto Eco argues"
[1:55:45] Ronny on open-formatted process.
[1:58:50] Vanessa on shared property and common language.